John Down b. 26 Sep 1864 Rotherhithe, Surrey (Dec 1864 Rotherhithe SRY 1d 580) d. 11 Oct 1920 Seymour, Mitchell Shire, Victoria, Australia: Featherstone One Name Study

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John Down

Male 1864 - 1920  (56 years)


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  • Name John Down  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17] 
    Born 26 Sep 1864  Rotherhithe, Surrey (Dec 1864 Rotherhithe SRY 1d 580) Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 3, 5, 18] 
    Gender Male 
    Baptism 23 Oct 1864  St Mary, Rotherhithe, Surrey Find all individuals with events at this location  [2] 
    son of John and Mary Ann Down 
    Name Jno Down  [19] 
    Reference Number P1689 
    Died 11 Oct 1920  Seymour, Mitchell Shire, Victoria, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  [3, 4, 5, 18] 
    • age 56
    Buried Seymour Cemetery, Seymour, Mitchell Shire, Victoria, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  [5] 
    Notes 
    • birth registration index John Down Dec 1864 Rotherhithe SRY 1d 580
      mother's maiden surname Cruse

      baptisms solemnized in the Parish of St Mary, Rotherhithe in the County of Surrey
      October 23 1864 born September 26 1864
      John son of John and Mary Ann Down of 80 Adam's Street labourer

      Find A Grave memorial 234424146
      John Down born 1864 died 1920 (aged 55-56) Seymour, Mitchell Shire, Victoria, Australia
      buried Seymour Cemetery, Seymour, Mitchell Shire, Victoria, Australia

      I do have both marriage and death certificates of John Down my Grandfather unfortunately they do not give months only years. He died on the 11 October 1920 aged 56, which makes it he was born in 1864 however on his marriage certificate he was married on the 4 June 1888 aged 23 by this he was born 1865. As a matter of interest John Down my Great Grandfather who was born in Bickleigh, his mother as you know was Mary Passmore, his mother in law was a Elizabeth Passmore who married a William Crute. Kevin Down glenkev@optusnet.com.au

      marriage 1888 Victoria, Australia John Down and Hannah Margaret Smith
    Person ID I1689  Paul and Pam Featherstone's family tree
    Last Modified 20 Mar 2024 

    Father John Down,   b. 20 Aug 1839, Bickleigh, Devon (Sep 1839 Plympton St Mary DEV 9 368) Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 8 Mar 1909, Bendigo, Victoria, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 69 years) 
    Relationship natural 
    Mother Mary Ann Crute,   b. Abt 1837, Ashburton, Devon Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1884, Victoria, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 47 years) 
    Relationship natural 
    Married 9 Sep 1863  Shoreditch Registry Office, Middlesex (Sep 1863 Shoreditch MDX 1c 573) Find all individuals with events at this location  [18, 20] 
    • Paul the details on my great grandparents marriage are as follows. Their names were John Down and Mary Ann Crute, they were married on the ninth of September 1863 at the registry office in the district of Shoreditch in the county of Middlesex. He was 23 years old and she was 26 years old residence of both of them at the time of marriage was given as 11 Short Street Shoreditch. His father's occupation was given as a farm labourer and was deceased at the time of the marriage. Her father 's occupation was given as a timber sawyer, and his name was William Crute. The witnesses were a Mary Cronin and a Patrick Clary. My great grandmother was born in Ashburton. Hope this helpful Regards Kevin Down glenkev@optusnet.com.au

      In answer to to your question regarding information on the marriage of my Great Grandfather John Down to Mary Ann Crute. Where I said that his mother was Mary Passmore and his mother in law was Elizabeth Passmore. Elizabeth Passmore married William Crute on 6 October 1833 at Ashburton. I have not been able to find if there is any family connection between Elizabeth and Mary. Elizabeth Passmore was born around 1808 at Holne, according to the 1851 census they had 6 children.

      marriage registration index Sep 1863 Shoreditch MDX 1c 573
      Mary A Crute
    Family ID F592  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Hannah Margaret Smith,   b. 4 Aug 1866, Beechworth, Victoria, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 18 Mar 1926, Brunswick, Victoria, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 59 years) 
    Married 1888  Victoria, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  [6] 
    Children 
     1. Herbert George Down,   b. 1894, Wangaratta, Victoria, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 25 Jun 1970, New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 76 years)  [natural]
     2. Cyril Seymour Down,   b. 28 Aug 1910, Seymour, Victoria, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 26 Nov 1982, Ringwood, Victoria, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 72 years)  [natural]
     3. Percival Roy Down,   b. 13 Feb 1902, Myrtleford, Alpine Shire, Victoria, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 26 Sep 1976, Preston, Darebin City, Victoria, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 74 years)  [natural]
     4. Hilda Frances Down,   b. 1905, Myrtleford, Alpine Shire, Victoria, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1980, Box Hill North, Victoria, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 75 years)  [natural]
     5. John Henry Down,   b. 1890, Longwood, Victoria, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 21 May 1944, West Brunswick, Victoria, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 54 years)  [natural]
     6. Ivy Vera Down,   b. 1897, Wangaratta, Victoria, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 6 Jun 1915, Carlton, Victoria, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 18 years)  [natural]
     7. Olive Ruby Down,   b. 1892, Wangaratta, Victoria, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1956, Parramatta, New South Wales, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 64 years)  [natural]
     8. Donald Alexander Down,   b. 27 Jun 1900, Wangaratta, Victoria, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 24 Aug 1972, Heidelberg, Victoria, Australia Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 72 years)  [natural]
    Last Modified 20 Mar 2024 
    Family ID F4034  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Event Map
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  • Sources 
    1. [S577] England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915, FreeBMD, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations Inc; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2006;).
      Record for John Down
      http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=FreeBMDBirth&h=413886&indiv=try

    2. [S576] London, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906, Ancestry.com, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2010;), London Metropolitan Archives, Rotherhithe St Mary, Register of Baptism, p71/mry, Item 023.
      Record for John Down
      http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=LMAbirths&h=2694243&indiv=try

    3. [S634] Australia, Death Index, 1787-1985, Ancestry.com, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2010;).
      Record for Jno Down
      http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1779&h=1632924&indiv=try

    4. [S640] Victoria, Australia, Wills and Probate Records, 1841-2009, Ancestry.com, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations Inc.; Location: Lehi, UT, USA; Date: 2016;), Public Record Office Victoria; North Melbourne, Victoria; Victorian Wills, Probate and Administration Records 1841-1925; Series: VPRS 7591.
      Record for John Down
      http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=61315&h=1542906&indiv=try

    5. [S603] Australia and New Zealand, Find A Grave Index, 1800s-Current, Ancestry.com, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2012;).
      Record for John Down
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    6. [S688] Australia, Marriage Index, 1788-1950, Ancestry.com, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2010;), Pioneer Index Victoria 1836-1888.
      Record for John Down
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    7. [S699] Australia, Birth Index, 1788-1922, Ancestry.com, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2010;), Federation Index. Victoria 1889-1901.
      Record for Jno Hy Down
      https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1778&h=1639367&indiv=try

    8. [S720] Victoria, Australia, Death Index, 1836-1988, Ancestry.com, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Lehi, UT, USA; Date: 2018;), The Victorian Registry of Births, Deaths, and Marriages; Melbourne, Victoria, Australia; Victoria, Australia, Death Records.
      Record for John Henry Down
      https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=61650&h=262870&indiv=try

    9. [S699] Australia, Birth Index, 1788-1922, Ancestry.com, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2010;), Federation Index. Victoria 1889-1901.
      Record for Herbt Geo Down
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    10. [S699] Australia, Birth Index, 1788-1922, Ancestry.com, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2010;), Federation Index. Victoria 1889-1901.
      Record for Ivy Vera Down
      https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1778&h=1639365&indiv=try

    11. [S634] Australia, Death Index, 1787-1985, Ancestry.com, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2010;), Great War Index Victoria 1914-1920.
      Record for Ivy Down
      https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1779&h=1632921&indiv=try

    12. [S699] Australia, Birth Index, 1788-1922, Ancestry.com, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2010;), Federation Index. Victoria 1889-1901.
      Record for Donald Alex Down
      https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1778&h=1639338&indiv=try

    13. [S734] Victoria, Australia, Birth Index, 1837-1917, Ancestry.com, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Lehi, UT, USA; Date: 2018;), The Victorian Registry of Births, Deaths, and Marriages; Melbourne, Victoria, Australia; Victoria, Australia, Birth Records.
      Record for Percival Roy Down
      https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=61648&h=278545&indiv=try

    14. [S634] Australia, Death Index, 1787-1985, Ancestry.com, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2010;), Death Index Victoria 1921-1985.
      Record for Percival Roy Down
      https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1779&h=2088512&indiv=try

    15. [S699] Australia, Birth Index, 1788-1922, Ancestry.com, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2010;), Edwardian Index. Victoria 1902-1913.
      Record for Hilda Frances Down
      https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1778&h=1995901&indiv=try

    16. [S634] Australia, Death Index, 1787-1985, Ancestry.com, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2010;), Death Index Victoria 1921-1985.
      Record for Hilda Frances Johnston
      https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1779&h=2427380&indiv=try

    17. [S699] Australia, Birth Index, 1788-1922, Ancestry.com, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2010;), Edwardian Index. Victoria 1902-1913.
      Record for Cyril Seymour Down
      https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1778&h=1995517&indiv=try

    18. [S241] Kevin Down.

    19. [S699] Australia, Birth Index, 1788-1922, Ancestry.com, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2010;), Federation Index. Victoria 1889-1901.
      Record for Olive Ruby Down
      https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1778&h=1639381&indiv=try

    20. [S586] England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915, FreeBMD, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations Inc; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2006;).
      Record for John Down
      https://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=8913&h=8260247&indiv=try


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